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    pvp daggerfist cancel....!!!!!

    Post by CfRevense on Sun May 29, 2011 12:36 pm

    pvp dagger cancel work ???
    because i tried with aion but no cancel on me...!!!
    halin can y tell me if it work ??
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    Re: pvp dagger\fist cancel....!!!!!

    Post by Halin on Sun May 29, 2011 5:26 pm

    We changed the skill a couple of times and I don't know now how it's working. I would need to check. I remember something like 3% activation, 90% chance of cancelling 1.


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    Re: pvp dagger\fist cancel....!!!!!

    Post by Daemonic on Sun May 29, 2011 5:52 pm

    the chance for it to activate is really low,
    however, it DOES! work, but really rarely.
    on old wings the cancel was 100% removed, now it's just really really low chance.

    so it does work, but not like it does on retail (cancelling all buffs within a few minutes that is)
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    Re: pvp dagger\fist cancel....!!!!!

    Post by Halin on Mon May 30, 2011 3:10 pm

    Daemonic wrote:so it does work, but not like it does on retail (cancelling all buffs within a few minutes that is)

    If you want us to set it back to 15% trigger chance and 1-2 buffs 100% cancelled...

    But I find it totally unfair for a high rates. In a low rates all the chars die in a few hits, here we all have high defenses and extremely high HP/CP.


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    Re: pvp dagger\fist cancel....!!!!!

    Post by Toxic on Mon May 30, 2011 3:24 pm

    I think is more unfair like now cause dont work at all.
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    Post by Halin on Mon May 30, 2011 3:31 pm

    Toxic wrote:I think is more unfair like now cause dont work at all.

    In theory it does.


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    Re: pvp dagger\fist cancel....!!!!!

    Post by Toxic on Mon May 30, 2011 3:52 pm

    Fuck the theory i test it with my friend (dagger also pvp weapon) and almost we kill each other but no a singe buff canceled affraid

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    Post by 3DDIE on Mon May 30, 2011 5:15 pm

    finalmente ya q le kitaron practimaente todo el chance de cancelar a las fist y dagas podrian subirle un poco el patk o algo para compensar.
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    Re: pvp dagger\fist cancel....!!!!!

    Post by Halin on Mon May 30, 2011 7:30 pm

    3DDIE wrote:finalmente ya q le kitaron practimaente todo el chance de cancelar a las fist y dagas podrian subirle un poco el patk o algo para compensar.

    Siguen teniendo la que yo creo que es la mejor (al menos parecida a las de magos y arqueros en utilidad) skill PvP: ignoran escudo. Sobre todo en un high rates con los buff de aumentar probabilidad de parar con escudo es una habilidad cojonuda. Pero no, todos estáis como locos por el cancel (y lloráis cuando os lo meten, que nos conocemos).

    ¿Queréis quitar unos 10 buff por cada PvP? ¿Qué gracia tiene eso? Dejar al otro en bolas sin hacer nada más que dar a atacar (y tirar alguna poción de vez en cuando) y luego matarle. Queréis balance pero luego queréis que todo el mundo tenga cancel y tener que iros a dar buff tras cada PvP. Os recuerdo que las dagas PvP si se ponen con un cancel alto las llevarían casi todos los personajes que no sean magos.

    Lo máximo que os concedo es un 5% de activación y el mismo power que el de los SpS/MM/Sorc/Archm, si queréis. Pero os aviso que el de los SpS no entra ni a patadas (y no lo hemos tocado). Si queréis avisad.


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    Daggers and fists still have one of the best PvP skills (similar to the bow and mage weapon of usefulness): they ignore shield. It's really important in a high rates with shield buffs. But you all love cancel (and cry when they cancel you).

    Do you want to end every PvP without dances/songs? Is it funny? Kill the other by only pressing f1 (/attackforce) and using a potion from time to time. Is it? You want balance but then you want everybody to have cancel and make everybody rebuff after every single PvP. I remind you cancel daggers/fist can be worn by all the players, and they would if they have a high cancel rate. All but wizards.

    The max I would increase it is 5% trigger chance and the same power as the SpS/MM/Sorc/Archm, if you want. I tell you their Cancellation skill rarely cancels a buff (and we haven't modified it). If you want just tell me.


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    Re: pvp dagger\fist cancel....!!!!!

    Post by Daemonic on Mon May 30, 2011 7:31 pm

    well, it still has the shield p.def decrease.

    if it had cancel, dagger pvp would have 2 effects, while all others have 1.
    maybe you would reply to that, that it's a crap PvP effect, but duelists have a way more crappy pvp effect (decrease crossbow/bow range).

    @halin:
    if pvp cancel would work like retail,
    i would go in oly with my spectral dancer, medusa, hit with dagger and cancel all buffs.
    coz it's possible to stil lcancel in medusa...

    so yea, i bet nobody would like that, and justl iek you said, rebuffing after every pvp is fcked up.

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    Post by 3DDIE on Tue May 31, 2011 1:41 am

    nop... si no kieres darle alguna mejora a las garras /dagas por kitarle el cancel, mejor dejalo tal como esta.
    se agradece la respuesta.
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    Re: pvp dagger\fist cancel....!!!!!

    Post by Halin on Tue May 31, 2011 9:16 am

    3DDIE wrote:nop... si no kieres darle alguna mejora a las garras /dagas por kitarle el cancel, mejor dejalo tal como esta.
    se agradece la respuesta.

    No, lo que he dicho es que les puedo poner el cancel que lo tiren más y que entre menos.


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